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‘Joker: Folie À Deux’s Risky Musical Vision Was Based On Joaquin Phoenix’s Dream

After an underwhelming opening weekend, the highly anticipated ‘Joker: Folie À Deux’ is already being dubbed a disaster. The movie, starring Joaquin Phoenix and Lady Gaga, pulled in a mere $37.8 million domestically, despite high expectations.

According to a report from The Hollywood Reporter, the sequel’s concept stemmed from an unexpected source — Joaquin Phoenix’s dream to be more specific. Now, both the studio and filmmaker Todd Phillips face tough questions about why they gambled on a risky project. 

The Making of ‘Joker: Folie À Deux’

Lady Gaga as Harley Quinn and Joaquin Phoenix as Joker (Image: Warner Bros)
Lady Gaga as Harley Quinn and Joaquin Phoenix as Joker (Image: Warner Bros)

The journey of ‘Joker: Folie À Deux’ started under pressure from Warner Bros. Discovery’s CEO David Zaslav. Following the monumental success of ‘Joker’, which grossed over $1 billion worldwide and earned Phoenix an Oscar, the studio was eager for a follow-up. However, the original film’s gritty, standalone nature didn’t scream for a sequel. 

Related: ‘Joker: Folie à Deux’ Gets ‘D’ CinemaScore After Massive Box Office Fall

So, the decision to make a sequel in itself was a bold one. But it wasn’t until Phoenix dreamt of a new narrative twist for Arthur Fleck that things took shape. The actor shared his vision with Phillips, who quickly latched onto the idea. Phoenix’s dream reportedly laid the musical-like exploration of Arthur’s time in Arkham Asylum. 

The movie introduces Lady Gaga as Harley Quinn. However, unlike its predecessor, which leaned into the psychological thriller genre, ‘Joker: Folie À Deux’ focused on Arthur’s delusions and musical fantasies. Despite the high-profile cast, the movie’s reception has been anything but celebratory. 

Who Is To Blame For ‘Joker: Folie À Deux’s Failure?

Joaquin Phoenix as Joker (Image: Warner Bros)
Joaquin Phoenix as Joker (Image: Warner Bros)

One might expect that with the involvement of top talent, the film would be a surefire hit. Joaquin Phoenix and Todd Phillips each secured $20 million deals, while Lady Gaga signed on for $12 million. Yet, the sequel’s box office numbers suggest that money alone couldn’t save it.

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Phillips insisted on skipping traditional test screenings to preserve the film’s surprises. However, the decision backfired. After the movie premiered at the Venice Film Festival, spoilers began circulating online. “Complete audience rejection,” one insider described the reaction.

While Phillips could be blamed for the film’s estranged path and huge contrast to ‘Joker’, he is not the sole perpetrator. Moreover, his avoidance of external feedback might have contributed to the film’s downfall. Ultimately, ‘Joker: Folie À Deux‘ may be remembered as a bold experiment that went wrong. 

Phoenix’s dream may have sparked the sequel’s initial inspiration. However, perhaps it wasn’t meant to translate to the big screen. The film’s tagline could well have been “For Joaquin,” as one insider put it, rather than for the millions of fans.

Vanshika Minakshi
Vanshika Minakshihttps://firstcuriosity.com/
Vanshika is a content writer at FirstCuriosity, diving into the vibrant universe of celebrities, movies, and TV shows with fervor. Her passion extends beyond her professional endeavors, as she immerses herself in the realms of rap music and video games, constantly seeking inspiration from diverse sources. She is a business student with a knack for marketing blending analytical insights with creative instincts to craft compelling narratives. When not working you can find her spending times with her beloved pet dogs or watching true crime documentaries.

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